5.19.2008

Nietzsche and the Nazis

After reading some modern day butchering of Nietzsche's philosophy, most recently, that of Ravi Zacharias, and the impact upon history of Nietzsche's thought, I feel it is somewhat necessary to provide clarification on both.

Zacharias directly and obliquely relates Nietzsche's thinking to Hitler and Mussolini. And he does this not just once, but repeatedly, without offering the reader a single clarification of what really went on.

Rather than provide a lengthy dissertation on the evolution of Nietzsche's thought, both prior to and after his death, I'll try to sum things up with a few salient points:

  1. Nietzsche was intellectually and morally opposed to anti-Semitism, and his opposition could not have been more clearly stated. It was the primary basis for his break with Richard Wagner and the source of much conflict with his sister, Elisabeth, who married an anti-Semite and attempted to establish an anti-Semitic colony in South America.

  2. Nietzsche was opposed to nihilism because it was, primarily, a "no saying" philosophy that served to negate any positivistic aspect of existence.

  3. Nietzsche's sister, Elisabeth, took control and ownership of Nietzsche's manuscripts and notes following his breakdown in 1889. From that point on, until her death, she controlled utterly the presentation of Nietzsche's thought in the world.

  4. Modern scholars and contemporaries of Nietzsche are all generally in agreement that his sister was utterly incapable of understanding his philosophy in any substantive fashion, and equally incapable of coalescing his notes and manuscripts into anything intelligible or remotely representative of her brother's thoughts.

  5. Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche's presentation of her brother's philosophy resulted in a demonstrably false and corrupted philosophy that is consistently at odds with what was actually written and espoused by her brother.

  6. Hitler's adoption of Nietzsche's philosophy as the philosophy of German National Socialism (the Nazis) was made in response to the pleadings of Elisabeth.

The idealism of the Hitlerian Übermensch and the philosophy of power is a corruption of Nietzsche's thought that persists to this day. Readers with the slightest inclination to intellectual curiosity will readily find evidence throughout the whole of Nietzsche's works—both published and unpublished—that runs counter to the corruptions that have served as fodder for dissembling screeds such as we encounter from Zacharias. Yet Zacharias wholly misunderstands and misrepresents the idea of Nietzsche's Übermensch (the "Overman" or "Superman"), his philosophy of power, and Der Wille zur Macht (The Will to Power). This much is evident from reading passages where Zacharias attempts to address what he perceives to be shortcomings of Nietzschean philosophy. The issues themselves are far too complex, multi-layered, and interwoven with subtleties of thought to address here. It should be sufficient to say, however, that Zacharias has never undertaken a serious study of Nietzsche's thought, preferring instead to construct straw men from the Golems of Nietzsche's sister and attack long-refuted philosophical positions.

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Anonymous Nathan said...

Honestly does it really surprise you that someone whom actually does believe in a higher power would result to name-calling and ignorant commentary? Especially after saying that is exactly what he wouldn't do?

Meh... I'm glad you gave this a shot, because I know there is no way I could. It is that kind of thinking that leads to close-mindedness but after reading through the christian bible and the koran multiple times, I feel I've all the ammunition I need to shoot down the occasional theocrat whom tries to convert me.

Still it is a severe injustice to Nietzsche, and only serves to make Ravi look like the short-sighted person he is. Meh.. good stuff, glad you addressed it.

Did you make it past 21, or did you stop there?

5/20/2008 12:38:00 AM  
Blogger Becca said...

Did I make it past page 21? Not really. I tried skipping forward, trying to find the actual argumentation and avoid the reactionary, senseless diatribes, but couldn't find anything redeeming. Actually, I couldn't even find a real argument.

Which is interesting, because in opposing "anti-theism" he makes a case for the usefulness of religion in making sense of life, but he utterly avoids discussing any proof of God or refutation of atheism's central arguments—that there is no evidence to support a logical conclusion that God exists.

5/23/2008 09:00:00 AM  
Blogger shrimplate said...

Neitzsche's work, from what I've read of it in Walter Kaufmann's translations, is far more sympathetic than it is usually portrayed, and often achingly beautiful. He has to be the most maligned author ever.

5/24/2008 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger Becca said...

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Nietzsche's ideas have been perverted, misstated, misrepresented, and made to be something they are most definitely not.

I've been studying Nietzsche's works for about 20 years now and every time I read crap like the sort doled out by Zacharias, I visibly cringe and my frustration at the stupidity rises a notch. Uneducated buffoons like Zacharias who want to relate the ideas of Nietzsche need to do some actual scholarship before they go mouthing off about what he said or believed.

"Achingly beautiful" is quite possibly one of the most apropos characterizations of his work. I, personally, find what Nietzsche wrote, in spite of the circumstances of his life, to be more beautiful and honest precisely because of those circumstances. How much value does it have to hear one say "Yes!" to life? How much more value is there when the existence that gives the "Yes!" life is one of daily misery and torment from physical afflictions? Nietzsche refused his torment in favor of searching for something more positivistic from the human condition—something that Christianity could never provide because it had neither the means, nor the wherewithal to engage in the necessary inquiry.

5/24/2008 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find this interesting. I am a "Christian" [not not religious or denominational, I believe in God not man made religious bullpoo], not always been though I was raised "relgious C of E" which in turn helped me make up my mind to be pagan, basically not of their "god".

It would be great if people treated us as individuals not all stuck together in a religious mess. To me God exists, He is very very real, I cannot prove that to anybody else, I just know it. However some Christians act like "christians" and not a bit like Christ.

Am I wrong for thinking this? I certainly hope not and let my kids choose to believe whatever they want to believe, as brain-washing and religion stuffing-down-throat is not right.

I do not know much about Nietzsche, but I will do some reading on him. But I stand firm in the Bible and God, not in religion.

You make some good points in your previous posts though.

5/26/2008 09:00:00 AM  
Blogger Becca said...

@ Anon: I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here, but I think you're conflating concepts.

On the one hand, there is "God" (or "a god") and the issue of whether or not he/she/it exists. On the other hand, there is religion which is that morality that is wrapped around and dependent upon whatever god is attributed with it. For Christians, biblical morality is the religion wrapped around and dependent upon Jesus Christ and the Judeo-Christian God.

Adopting or adhering to one part does not necessitate adopting or adhering to the other part. What does that mean? It means that one does not need to believe in God to find a defensible system of morality in Christian teachings (e.g., the Bible). Nor does it mean that one need adopt biblical morality in order to believe in the Judeo-Christian God.

5/27/2008 09:00:00 AM  

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  • By Anonymous Nathan, at 5/20/2008 12:38:00 AM  

    Honestly does it really surprise you that someone whom actually does believe in a higher power would result to name-calling and ignorant commentary? Especially after saying that is exactly what he wouldn't do?

    Meh... I'm glad you gave this a shot, because I know there is no way I could. It is that kind of thinking that leads to close-mindedness but after reading through the christian bible and the koran multiple times, I feel I've all the ammunition I need to shoot down the occasional theocrat whom tries to convert me.

    Still it is a severe injustice to Nietzsche, and only serves to make Ravi look like the short-sighted person he is. Meh.. good stuff, glad you addressed it.

    Did you make it past 21, or did you stop there?


  • By Blogger Becca, at 5/23/2008 09:00:00 AM  

    Did I make it past page 21? Not really. I tried skipping forward, trying to find the actual argumentation and avoid the reactionary, senseless diatribes, but couldn't find anything redeeming. Actually, I couldn't even find a real argument.

    Which is interesting, because in opposing "anti-theism" he makes a case for the usefulness of religion in making sense of life, but he utterly avoids discussing any proof of God or refutation of atheism's central arguments—that there is no evidence to support a logical conclusion that God exists.


  • By Blogger shrimplate, at 5/24/2008 11:45:00 AM  

    Neitzsche's work, from what I've read of it in Walter Kaufmann's translations, is far more sympathetic than it is usually portrayed, and often achingly beautiful. He has to be the most maligned author ever.


  • By Blogger Becca, at 5/24/2008 08:10:00 PM  

    Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

    Nietzsche's ideas have been perverted, misstated, misrepresented, and made to be something they are most definitely not.

    I've been studying Nietzsche's works for about 20 years now and every time I read crap like the sort doled out by Zacharias, I visibly cringe and my frustration at the stupidity rises a notch. Uneducated buffoons like Zacharias who want to relate the ideas of Nietzsche need to do some actual scholarship before they go mouthing off about what he said or believed.

    "Achingly beautiful" is quite possibly one of the most apropos characterizations of his work. I, personally, find what Nietzsche wrote, in spite of the circumstances of his life, to be more beautiful and honest precisely because of those circumstances. How much value does it have to hear one say "Yes!" to life? How much more value is there when the existence that gives the "Yes!" life is one of daily misery and torment from physical afflictions? Nietzsche refused his torment in favor of searching for something more positivistic from the human condition—something that Christianity could never provide because it had neither the means, nor the wherewithal to engage in the necessary inquiry.


  • By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5/26/2008 09:00:00 AM  

    I find this interesting. I am a "Christian" [not not religious or denominational, I believe in God not man made religious bullpoo], not always been though I was raised "relgious C of E" which in turn helped me make up my mind to be pagan, basically not of their "god".

    It would be great if people treated us as individuals not all stuck together in a religious mess. To me God exists, He is very very real, I cannot prove that to anybody else, I just know it. However some Christians act like "christians" and not a bit like Christ.

    Am I wrong for thinking this? I certainly hope not and let my kids choose to believe whatever they want to believe, as brain-washing and religion stuffing-down-throat is not right.

    I do not know much about Nietzsche, but I will do some reading on him. But I stand firm in the Bible and God, not in religion.

    You make some good points in your previous posts though.


  • By Blogger Becca, at 5/27/2008 09:00:00 AM  

    @ Anon: I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here, but I think you're conflating concepts.

    On the one hand, there is "God" (or "a god") and the issue of whether or not he/she/it exists. On the other hand, there is religion which is that morality that is wrapped around and dependent upon whatever god is attributed with it. For Christians, biblical morality is the religion wrapped around and dependent upon Jesus Christ and the Judeo-Christian God.

    Adopting or adhering to one part does not necessitate adopting or adhering to the other part. What does that mean? It means that one does not need to believe in God to find a defensible system of morality in Christian teachings (e.g., the Bible). Nor does it mean that one need adopt biblical morality in order to believe in the Judeo-Christian God.

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